Longevity Pages with Content from other sources.
15 July 08
Simon,
So far your machine you sent me is fine. The missing or cutting out is probably related to the "Jumper Cable" type gound. I notices the copper going into the clamp has been overheated. I will change the clamo to the one from Harbor Freight and see if it makes a difference.
About the website.
Previously a discussion was held regarding the use of another manufacturers information in your website. Others had brought it up. You and I talked about that at length. I explained where I stood. The thread that was on the forum is GONE.
My posting in relation to that thread was true. Yet it was deleted. That does upset me but I know it is a right of the forum moderator.
I recently returned to some of the pages and the html on your pages still refer
to or use keywords that are the names or trademarks of other manufacturers.
Here is a screen recording of some of what I speak about . http://weldingdata.com/WelderReviews/longevity/140AmpLongevitywebcontent/140AmpLongevitywebcontent.html
We spoke about this on the phone when you expressed displeasure in my comments, we have corresponded by email.
You indicated you wish I had contacted you 1st.
I agreed to review one of your machines which I am in the process of and also agreed to publish my findings. The overall review of the machine and the service will reflect the experiences and communications I have had with your company.
The pages that I went back to look at after you told me this would be corrected are
http://longevity-inc.com/details.php?info=45
Your information for Mig welding at http://longevity-inc.com/details.php?info=21 is the same as that contained at http://www.advantagefabricatedmetals.com/mig-welding.html
If you had obtained permission from this company, then that is fine.
On page http://longevity-inc.com/details.php?info=20
Your information for SMAW contains some exact matches to content already in existence but it appears to be public domain however the statement regarding three types of joints is incorrect and is matching that created by an educational institution. A search on google such as this reveals that text. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22The+SMAW+welding+process+typically+is+capable+of+producing%22&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1
It is possible that either BOTH of you are randomly wrong about how many joints can be welded
and worded it exactly the same or the university copied your content or you copied theirs. And that may all be fine and good. But give credit where credit is due.
The point is that some of the posts on the forum disappear related to issues that had been brought up.
Some of those posts contained information that I thought was worth people interested in your products, service, and company character would
benefit from.
Again, we talked about this over the phone but I am more of a "text" type person in the fact I like to have a record of what I have said and what others have said to me.
Could you shed some light on the fact that your websites HTML tags still refer to other manufacturers and also the questionable content that appears to duplicate content on other sites without giving credit to that
site/company?
This content can be seen at http://weldingdata.com/WelderReviews/longevity/wwpost15july08.htm .
Comments may be made but just like others I may modify them based on content. Getting ugly won't be allowed.
The original posing address is http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=22711 to read the current comments.
NOTE: The forum was edited by Longevity to remove the above reference to the MIG info that is the same as on http://www.advantagefabricatedmetals.com/mig-welding.html
23 Sep 08
In response to a statement made regarding my previous issues with website content on longevities site I made the following comments.
I just used that sentence as search criteria. The other content that was contained (graphics etc) was duplicated from another source. You may have seen the video. This video was taken after I had spoken with Longevity regarding proevious content that
was nearly 100% duplicated content describing welding process that was located on a major equipment MFG site.
I had spoken with Simon prior to the content that was recorded on the video. Here is the text of that conversation because as indicated, some posts disappear or are altered.
[url]http://weldingdata.com/WelderReviews/longevity/wwpost15july08.htm[/url]
The scree recording was made AFTER addressing the previous content that was from Millers site.
[url]http://weldingdata.com/WelderReviews/longevity/140AmpLongevitywebcontent/140AmpLongevitywebcontent.html[/url]
I FULLY agree that the information I used to search on is "Entry Level" . In fact one of the very 1st things I teach someone is the 5 types of joints. Butt, Corner, Edge, Lap, and Tee. All of the above joints are welded with SMAW. Always have been and probably always will be as long as SMAW is still being performed. It is so very entry level that it caught my eye because it did not include all of the joints.
So no. I do not think it is a stretch as 2 of the other joints were left out.
Again, I do not know if there are legal issues however it would be extremely odd if Lincoln used Millers information that was not product specific without giving them credit for the content.
The embedded metatags on the longevity site are below. And though that is fully legal in some circles, its still odd.
<meta name="keywords" content="Power of Blue, Miller, Miller Welders, Miller Electric, welding equipment, weld, welding, TIG, MIG, STICK, Plasma, plasma cutting, engine driven, SAW, GTAW, SMAW, GMAW, FCAW, wire, wire feeder, wire welding, arc welding, generator, flux cored, Flux, PAC, resistance welding, resistance spot, pulsed Mig, pulsed TIG, submerged arc, welding guns, power source, automation, multi-process, multi-operator, training, weld training, metal, arc welding, spot welding, spot resistance, premier, quality, professional, occasional, hobby, blue, SAW, squarewave, tungsten, pulsing, power efficiency, sub-arc, automation, accessories, motorsports, welding technology, inverter, service, ITW company, ITW, welding systems, air carbon arc cutting, air carbon arc gouging, air carbon, light industrial, industrial, heavy industrial, duty cycle, single phase, three phase, CC, CV, AC, DC, microprocessor, kW, torch, power factory correction, welding jobs, welding appleton, appleton wisconsin, welding Wisconsin, welding education, GMAW training packages, millerwelds videos, cds, books, MIG calculators, TIG calculators, STICK calculators, metal cutting, welding aluminum">
I do agree that information is pretty much free on the internet however to have content from one manufacturer placed in another website in my opinion is a questionable practice. May not be copyright protected, it may be.
The internet is like the National Enquirer or even the regularf media. Full of opinions, viewpoints, preceptions, lies, misleading information, and last and sometimes least facts. I am not all knowing so I have to take all of the info and compare it to other things I have learned and decide what is OK for me.
Take for instance this statement .
Surface Tension TransferŽ - a drop of molten metal touches the molten metal pool and is drawn into it by surface tension.
Spray Arc - the drop is ejected from the molten metal at the electrode tip by an electric pinch propelling it to the molten pool. (great for overhead welding!)
In general those statements in my opinion are misleading since in the 1st one a mode of metal transfer that was patented by Lincoln is used. That mode of transfer "Surface Tension Transfer" is or at least was only advertised by Lincoln. It is a transfer mode used for GMAW. Spray Arc is also a transfer mode for GMAW. And though within an SMAW arc you may very well have these types of metal transfer. The terms used are generally never referred to while using SMAW. In my opinion that could be misleading to someone unlearned
This content is contained on a page by Lincoln at http://www.lincolnelectric.com/knowledge/articles/content/arcweldfund.asp
There is similar content at http://longevity-inc.com/details.php?info=19 .
Though this may be legal, it still bothers me. Again just my opinion.
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